Group B: When Rallying Got TOO FAST

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    The Audi Quattro, Lancia 037 and the Peugeot 205 T16 - some of the most iconic names in rallying. Cars that pushed the limits of what was possible in a way that we haven’t seen since. It was called Group B and is still held as the Golden Era of Rallying.
    Group B was a class where manufacturers were allowed to go all out, with almost unlimited power, crazy aerodynamics and new exotic materials. It brought about new technologies like 4WD, Semi-Automatic Gearboxes and clever turbocharging systems.
    However, it was only for the bravest of drivers. The hugely powerful cars needed a lot of manhandling to thread them through the tight-twisty stages, away from huge drops and dodging a sea of spectators.
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    Rallying went wild in the 80s. The FIA wanted to attract more manufacturers and so created a class that would give the designers pretty much free reign, no power limits, no regulations on boost, and whatever exotic materials you liked.
    Rally cars over the years have been largely based on road cars, with rules tightening and loosening on how close the relationship has to be, between the stock car, and the ones that actually race the stage.
    For example, in the Group A class - the manufacturers have to produce 5000 road-going versions of the car before it is allowed to compete. In Group B, to lower costs and interest manufacturers, they ruled that only 200 needed to be produced. Group B also allowed almost endless modifications to be made - meaning the race cars were nothing like the road cars at all.
    This approach really worked, attracting many manufacturers to Group B - names like Lancia, Porsche, Peugeot, Audi, Toyota, Ford - as well as so many more.
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    1. Driver61

      Is this the greatest era of racing? These drivers are a different breed! Subscribe for more incredible motorsport!

      1. B Enis

        Yes.

      2. Roberth Salazar wolf

        Oohh yes!

      3. Crazy Fox

        @57thorns Grown men choosing to race. No one put a gun to their head and forced them to race. More likely the organisers didnt want to spend the money enforcing crowd safety. So you want to ban the Isle of Mann TT racing based on your logic ?

      4. 57thorns

        @JoBBuS Markku Alen, Juha Kankkunen, Timo Salonen, Hannu Mikkola, Ari Vatanen and Henri Toivonen The first five are alive today, at least according to a quick googling. Henri Toivonen died in the crash shown at 9:46. No guard rails, an unprotected aluminium fuel tank (the skid plate was only used on gravel roads) and driving while sick killed him (and his codriver). There were just so many things wrong with class B, not only the spectators and the zero margin for error, but also the practically complete lack of safety features in both cars and by the roads.

      5. 57thorns

        What people call the greatest era in "motorsport X" is also, for every kind of motor sport, the era where the life expectancy of drivers, and in many cases the audience, was the lowest. Do you really want to go back to the times when every year one or more of the top drivers die in a crash?

    2. 部首

      so nice peugeot 205

    3. Unidentified User

      Killer B DRIVER 👍👏👏👏 & Then there's Ken block D-Bag's wana B'S🤮🤮🤮

    4. menzi mabuza

      🙆‍♀️🙆‍♀️Jesus on a bicycle..that Lancia Delta engineering

    5. Christon Garin

      why the f are people standing too close??

    6. Neil Barker

      And the secret automatic spectator deflector was the actual key to victory.

    7. Kyle Gray

      The incandescent drop inherently rejoice because relish phenomenologically explode but a aware call. normal, poised celery

    8. Adrian Gutierrez

      min 7:12 left side of screen... 2020 time travellers watching group B xD

    9. Punished Candy

      3 dead spectators, 30 injured: "Not great, but not terrible." 2 dead racers: "SHUT IT DOWN!!!"

    10. Scott L.

      Turbocharging a supercharged engine? What kind of godless witchcraft is this? I think I'll top this by making my Ford run on petrol AND Diesel fuel...

    11. Kongebil J

      Audi drivers was doing left foot breaking to.

    12. Chris Fleming

      In the 80’s there was no health and safety. Great fun times way better than today that’s for sure. Life is about facing dangers deal with it.

    13. Roderick Jones

      Good video...I didn't want it to end!

    14. Sludge

      I think the first quattros were 4wd. Subsequent quattros were awd. If I am wrong, be gentle. 🤪

    15. Justin Dougherty

      Bring back group B

    16. heywood yabuzzoff

      NASCAR can suck it. This is racing

    17. Ryan Kluke

      Crazy to think that if lancia would have changed its turbine on the turbo for the delta it would of spooled up the turbo a lot faster and probably would have made smoother and more power also allowing in my mind for more torque in mid range

    18. Victor

      increasing the weight limit would've not really been beneficial to the drivers, like in other races the engineers would've just added lead sheets to the bottom of the car instead of better protecting the driver

    19. Victor

      We say that these cars were ended by the regulations, but the ulterior regulations on tabaco advertising would've killed them anyways, this was the era of big tabaco money, when they were swapping f1 engines every race to get close to 1000hp per litter

    20. george

      Quattro is AWD f350 is 4×4 cool vid

    21. BMW E34

      This is an amazing vid

    22. The Guns N Glory Show

      bring back group b. build a fence

    23. G Allan

      How on earth can you not mention the Ford RS200

    24. Brady Prince

      Are you french, because the Peugeot wasn't fast, it didn't win for a reason.

    25. Neil Pieterse

      I grew up with this type of racing and it was incredible to watch, unfortunately it takes the death of a driver to change the rules.....racing is incredible fast and dangerous. RIP all the drivers who have died racing.🙏🏻

    26. Noel Kavanagh

      Just come across this video very well explained well done .Just subbed too.

    27. Jaryd Jackson

      Ahhh, you’ve got to love the 1980’s... cocaine, the Cold War, AIDS epidemic, and Group B LMFAO!

      1. Sludge

        And transitioning into the nineties...Vanilla Ice!!!

    28. Mzyxplx

      The people in the way need to die for them to realize a car needs room to maneuver

    29. Johnnie Walker

      Nothing like the sound of Group B

    30. Shawn Kirk

      you got good commentator skillz !!

    31. OneHairyGuy

      For the life of me I cannot understand why Rally Races allow fans to be on the track ?? You don't see any fan on an F1 race track ?? Why are the allowed on a Rally Course ?? Idiots !!

    32. Darth Plagus

      DID I SEE A SPECTATOR HOLDING A BABY?!?!

    33. Grubnar

      I am not a rally fan, or a car person in general ... but this video was very informative and entertaining, holding my attention the entire time!

    34. Ahmedo929

      Group B: exists Car makers: *its free real estate*

    35. Shawn Elliott

      You would have to be an absolute nutter to get behind the wheel of one of those rocket ships. Smooth pavement in relatively straight lines is one thing, taking one on a rally track is a whole other ballgame. Mad respect to those drivers.

    36. Trevor Mathews

      You DIDNT mention, arguably to most recognizable, and essentially the name sake of the Group B monsters because of its appearance in the beginning of this video?! The god damn Ford RS200!!!

    37. Goodnight Sweet Prints

      1. No Spectators 2. Record with drones BRING IT BACK

    38. extremedrivr

      This is why there should always be limits on Race classes. Open class rulebooks end up either driving up the costs of racing or leading to tragedies like this. But.. Crazy cool cars for the era which we will probably never see again.

    39. RapedByRepublicansII

      I peed and poopshoot.

    40. Flowmasta Flam

      when people ask about what it was like to live in the 80's and 90's without smartphones and cameras on every street corner - show them group B

    41. skippys vr4

      I drive a group B everyday. Turns out a galant vr4 makes a great drag car. Traction and horsepower.

    42. Paul Nutter

      Too fast????? don't talk rubbish. Terrible foreign crowd control ruined rallying nt the cars

    43. General Skalinera // Neon Silver

      Group B was just the FIA's Super Modified division Change my mind

    44. Xavier Earnst

      3:38 that guy dropped his camera XD

    45. Argy Pan

      Mention Lancia Delta Integrale to any rally fan and you will see a spark in their eyes

    46. Manuel Kumli

      This is the kind of footage we should show aliens on first contact.

    47. Matteo Mori

      If you want to pronounce LANCIA correctly : "-cia" sounds "cha", so it's like a lunch-uh or lun-cha. LANCIA in italian means Spear

      1. Matteo Mori

        @extremedrivr it's not grammar. It's just pronunciation. And also a little bit of culture ;)

      2. extremedrivr

        Ok there Mr grammar 🚔. 😆

    48. 1978garfield

      Bring it back, put the kind of bumper guards that trucks in the Outback use on the cars and award points Death Race 2000 style if people wont keep off of the road. Have medical crews near by to harvest transplant organs so some good comes from their stupidity.

    49. J.C. Denton

      Bring back Group B - Death is the spice of it

    50. Ricky Castro

      When Henri and Sergio crashed, their lead made it so no one knew they crashed. The following racing team only stopped after seeing the flames and could still hear the screams. The technology that was created in light of their deaths have saved countless racers going forward.

    51. Endurance Makahamadze

      kenney from the block

    52. ChrisGR93 _TxS

      the last part of the video....... no words

    53. ChrisGR93 _TxS

      everybody leftfoot brake!

    54. ChrisGR93 _TxS

      5cylinder 20v sound is pure magic

    55. Toni Rantala

      I don't get it why they stand in the middle of the road. It's not like its a surprise there's car coming FAST at some point. Guess its just part of the fun to run for your life and slow down drivers while at it

    56. KoreBoredom

      Group B is like the raw power from Midnight Club cars on the wangan combined with the skill and precision of touge drifting. What more can you want?

    57. meme dream

      Rallying wouldn't be so dangerous if these brain defunct tourists and spectators weren't always in the way.

    58. josef salon

      Remember this era, also remember that horrible deadly crash...

    59. TrevSkee Cannon

      Just admit it.. you clicked on this video to listen to group b made engines.. but turn's out you'll listening to some dumb A55 chat crap everybody knows from the past 40 years!

    60. Snakerooni

      just to say I got unsubscribed by IThomes. Just subbed again.

    61. Maxwell Edison

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    62. ANGELOS CHRYSSA

      Actually modern WRC cars are a lot faster than any old GrB car in any kind of special stage. Old GrB cars are way too slow compared to modern WRC. Even modern WRC2 are faster than old GrB. The point is that old GrB cars did not have the long suspension travel that modern cars have, so they demanded more caution from the driver.

    63. Christophe

      Great video thank you😀

    64. lauraiss

      There are two themes in whole youtube nobody should ever touch again because those are not just over abused, they are over deep anally overfucked. In cars - Rally Group B In videogames - why Sega failed. Please for god sake do not touch these themes again. It is the most miserable topic to take. It's when you have nothing to talk about at all. Have a self respect.

    65. Dylan Yeomans

      Pretty sure the audi was a H pattern 5 speed manual not semi auto??

    66. Uula Hursti

      In the last Finnish interview before the fatal crash Toivonen said he thinks the race is ludicrous and not meant for humans to drive. He also said his brains are not enough for a task. It was way too long and dangerous - and we all saw what happened.

    67. Montikore Productions

      Aw man what about the RS200??

    68. Arne Servatius

      Your wrong again. Where were you when they gave out IQ’s. What a waste of a sports reporter you are.🤪

    69. Chris Mullin

      It was insane times...

    70. Chris Mullin

      Insane, something happend, and they decided no more HP over a certain limit!

    71. Gary Storey

      Maddest of them all ? Easily the Metro 6R4 !

    72. Emmanuel Herbert

      Group B. The best.

    73. J-STX

      Yeah, they got real rough with the Group B rallying. I don't know what they were thinking, just letting them do whatever they could to make their rally cars fast and agile but not thinking about the safety that they needed until after the incidents. Hopefully this never happens again.

    74. ilaril

      I miss the Group B times, although no way would it work anymore. Although I still think the best years were when you had scoobies, lancers and celicas.

    75. JP Brewer

      The cars were Too powerful....

    76. HypersonicMonkeyBrains

      4:20

    77. I'm Okay ,

      TRIPLE CAUTION !!!!! TRIPLE CAUTION !!!!

    78. Friday Ray

      Quattros rule

    79. Friday Ray

      ahhhhhhh, good old Days.....now, better hope there is a power outlet...?

    80. Rosenwasserraucher

      The way you're pronouncing Peugeot makes me guessing why the PERSIAN empire died... Xd

    81. Small Ben7

      Rally fans are a prime example of Darwinism in effect

    82. Kevin Soper

      They weren't called killer B's for nothing.

    83. flaetsbnort

      Honestly, that's the only way I expected such a class to end

    84. Hayfie Shamri

      Try to dream that Bunta will be rally with his Subaru

    85. Luis Abrunhosa

      Its wrong that you used the full original video and copied full narration word for word using your voice. Not sure if thats ok but it lacks originality/work

    86. Tamás Gudmon

      The group b drivers were gays all of them!

    87. Mike Hotchkiss

      I know why it had to end but watching it on tv with my dad in the day was epic. WRC now is a bit vanilla, maybe looking through tinted glasses, that is time, will do that.

    88. Gordan Marković

      Group B: When spectators went FULL retard

    89. Oryen Meave

      gangin😈

    90. maneki9neko

      Your explanation of the driving dynamics of Peugeot 205 T16 car at 4:05, and the Peugeot's unusual drive train is very helpful. The mid-transverse engine, with the gearbox and the engine laterally opposed, puts the weight between the two axles and low in the car. The powerful, four wheel drive Audi was a brute force solution to going faster. The Peugeot solution is a finesse solution, with the drive train weight in just the right place.

    91. Dane Van Pelt

      you look just like the dude from viva la dirt league lol

    92. STRATOTES PHOENIX

      👍Excellent Review 👍

    93. Marcelo Sanjuan

      3:39 RIP CAMERA

    94. Alpha Chingón

      I’m a massive fan of Group B rally and from all vids on IThomes I’ve seen yours is up there with the best vids I’ve seen. The research you’ve put into it and the explanations you give are very clear and easy to understand. Thank you 😊

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    96. Imina Punk

      Ok so... - move spectators to safe places - improve safety Can we have Group B again?

      1. CalcatrazYT

        @Seb A. No. Electric. Rally. Cars. I don't want to see Ford Focuses in a group B setting. Sorry, but that just isn't acceptable.

      2. YoJoe4368

        Maybe the drivers would have safer spots to bail off the road at if they lost control if the spectators weren't acting as guard rails. Hell some of them were in the middle of the track

      3. Seb A.

        @1978garfield The next WRC cars are hybrids and there are electric ones too. Also those electric cars arent build for a set of regulations yet and just like in Group B they ll have to reduce power to get to the end of a rally.

      4. 1978garfield

        Sounds good to me, mandate that cars have a at least a certain weight of safety equipment (if you just raise the weight limits they might just put bigger or more engines in) then rope off the sides and have the police/private security out there to arrest trespassers. I assume these public roads were closed to traffic during the races, it should be easy enough to ban pedestrian traffic as well. Sad that you have to tell adults to not play in the road in the middle of a motorsports event but there you go. I would love to see what they could come up with using today's technology. 2 engines? Would hybrids or straight electrics do well with all the chances for regenerative braking? How about a hybrid with 2 ICEs ? Only one way to find out, clear the roads and let them have at it!

      5. Shinren_

        there was barely any safety for the drivers yknow

    97. Samsgarden

      There should be no attempt to save the lives of people who spectate at these sports

    98. Aldo Delcorso

      When the ride was a real RIDE! MAD CARS ....MAD DRIVERS !

    99. Vulcan S Anderson

      This is why I'm never getting rid of my starion