JET Dragsters: The Insane 320MPH Dragsters
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This is a Jet-Powered Dragster, boasting more than 20 thousand horsepower per tonne and is one of the fastest accelerating cars on the planet.
It’s not the only dragster to use jet power though, there have been things like rocket-semi trucks, school buses and record-breaking funny cars.
But how do they work? And can they compete with the current crop of lightning-fast dragsters? All that, coming up.
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Jet dragsters have been around since the 1960s when racers began purchasing military-surplus jet engines and fitting them to custom dragster chassis’. Initially, they ran them at Bonneville Salt Flats before running them in full NHRA competitions and demolishing the piston-engined cars.
However, the insane speed and fire-risks meant the NHRA banned them. Even now, jet-cars are only run as ‘exhibition cars’ and cannot compete against each other. Whilst this is a shame, we can speculate at how they stack up against current piston-engined cars.
This is the Fireforce 5, a specialised jet-dragster that completes the quarter-mile in just over 5 seconds and can hit well over 300mph. It uses a jet-engine from a helicopter and is one of the quickest jet-cars ever made.
So why would you take a technology that is normally used to propel aircraft and fit it to a race car? Essentially it’s another take on the process of releasing energy from fuel and using it to go really fast.
But for Drag Racing it's a solution that allows them to create immense power without the drawbacks that we have spoken about in previous videos, things like exploding engines, snapping chassis’ in half and ripping tyres clean off the rim.
Not to mention that they produce incredible thrust for their weight, explaining why they are so popular for propelling aircraft.
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If i was ever going to try to be a pro like you Scott. I would want to learn from someone like you. Someone that knows the cars and the tech as well as can race. Not to mention you can also teach.
@AEON I think the losses from thrust to impeller would be significant. Not to mention melting. Higher RPMS result in higher volts, n which then results in higher amps. So bottleneck here is the gauge of the wires, they will dictate how much power can be transferred through them.
Has anyone used a jet turbine to create electricity for a electric motor dragster? Are turbines not used in some of our warships such as the newest Destroyer to create electricity to power the entire ship?? (Pretty sure it's the Destroyer but maybe it's another ship?)
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Short answer no
Fuel? Check. Gas? Check. Petrol? Check. Ozone layer? Chhheecc- it’s gone.
These things electric?
“....when they started buying military surplus jet engines.....” Fucking America.
Jet dragsters are very dangerous, 2 young women have been killed in them recently in 2018 & 2019. I love motor racing but worry about crowd safety.
They look so smooth while accelerating
People before fuel: 🏇🤼🧘🚶🤸🏃🕴️🕺 After: 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
instead of mpg it’s fps (fuel tanks per second)
A good friend of mine races these, his dad in the top fuel style jet, and he races a jet funny car. I got to see them up close for a bit, and as he was explaining everything on how all the forces come together in such a quick explosion of speed, it honestly scared me a bit haha. Fun fact, my friend also learned how to tune a jet around age 14.
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That's very interesting kind of hard to understand but very interesting I love your videos thank you
so why don't they use rockets instead?
1:18 the real question is why wouldn't you take a technology that is normally used to propel aircraft and fitted to a race car?
Internal combustion are very inefficient, like up to 86% inefficient. www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/atv.shtml
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It is so funny to see all those windmills and then a fuel guzzling jet dragster just rides into the distance among them
When are we going to address the fact that HP is nothing more than a numerical representation of an amount of fuel?
What is so insane about it?! Top fuel dragsters go 330 so what's the big deal??
How to get faster... Electric Lol.
1st jet you focused on is slower than Top Fuel.
So the key is to figure out how to make a powerhouse small enough for both a rocket engine + electric torque drive together
I'm as much of an adrenaline junky as the next car guy but top fuel & jet dragsters and anything else in that bracket takes balls way bigger than I have.
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If it jet powered it’s not a funny car it’s a jet car
Practical --no. FUN -YES !!!
Has anyone used a jet turbine to create electricity for a electric motor dragster? Are turbines not used in some of our warships such as the newest Destroyer to create electricity to power the entire ship?? (Pretty sure it's the Destroyer but maybe it's another ship?) .
A way to vastly increase the initial speed for the launch and first half of the track for the jet cars over the quarter mile would be to have a system that attaches to the car from the ground beneath, it would lock into the car and allow it to spool up completely, essentially a brake that can hold the car's full thrust unlike its own brakes, it would release at the moment the light goes green and would mean they'd pretty much shit on the piston cars immediately. I'd love to see this happen someday soon :)(
How about the cost per run? Top Fuel dragster is ca $10k per run, as you have to rebuild the whole engine, clutch, tyres and basically the whole car. Jet engines are rated Time Before Overhaul (TBO) up to 40.000 hours. So you can race all day long, just top up the fuel and check the tyres, is that right? Cost per run should be way less.
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What about rocket cars in competitive racing? Were they ever a viable option? If a dramatic engine change was not breaking the rules (internal combustion to jet) I would think the next evolution would be closed system rocket. Solve the issue of of variable trust based on speed/oxidizer flow rate: constant thrust
On this subject I know you've brushed upon drag bikes before, but how about Eric Teboul's current ROCKET POWERED drag bike or the now long-since retired rocket cars of Sammy Miller and Kitty O'Neil. Once saw Sammy Miller do a pass when I was young and I have never experienced anything like it! As quick as Fireforce V is, Sammy did the quarter mile in three and a half seconds, I for one would be interested to know how that was even possible.
Well now I know where rocket league got it’s inspiration.
This..... This is the most American thing america ever invented
Couldn’t engineers design a strong enough brake system that holds the dragster in place until the lights go out, even at full power? Would it be too heavy? Because then the jet engine would have enough time to get to full power
I wanna built the first JATO-assisted drag bicycle.
So you mean rocket league cars
if they doubled or tripled the length of the dragstrip would the jet powered car begin to outperform the other cars? or would that not be feasible, i don’t know too much about drag racing.
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So why not doint the obvious? Hybrid Dragster with piston engine plus turbine, that starts after 100 meters?
I remember watching them when they were allowed to compete at raceway park in nj
People did this bc their crazy or bored
Some things are wrong here : you don't use an helicopter engine to get thrust from it. Turboshafts are only meant to give torque on an axle. Turbojets produce real thrust, but are used only in aircraft.
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"So why would you take a technology that is normally used to propell aircraft and fit it to a race car? Because you can, thats why haha
Fuel economy is measured in oil fields per mile
Problem solved: make a turbine/diesel hybrid 👌 You get the low end diesel torque with the high end turbine power! It’s a crazy idea but I’m sure the Germans could do it! 😊 considering they basically invented everything that we now take for granted ❤️❤️
Me: *draws a car that a topbspeed of 380 mph*
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I have been fortunate enough to be a trackside photographer at a couple of jet car events. To be standing 20 feet or less from dueling afterburner pops feels like getting kicked in the chest by an entire herd of horses. When the tree goes green and they take off, it's like the fires of hell itself opened up and a thousand screaming banshees are coming for you (and that's with ear protection). The cars are half way down the track before you actually feel the thrust, which is like being sand blasted with a blowtorch as it blows the dust and debris back at you. A lot of people make fun of them because "top fuel is faster." True, but these beasts are exciting in their own right.
"Why would you take tech. designed to propel an aircraft and fit it to a race car?" Because you can, and it kicks ass!
With all respect, YAWN!! Who cares about 320 mph? Piston powered dragsters dominate the jets in a quarter mile.
Is the NHRA paying you yet? Seriously, these videos are way better and more educational than the stuff the NHRA puts out for their broadcasts. I was already a drag racing fan, but these videos have made me even more excited for the Gatornationals 😁
2:00 if you play KSP you already know that.
5 seconds? Sorry. Too slow. When they hit 335mph in 3.5seconds... the experience of the noise alone is worth the top fuel. Jets are still fun to watch but not nearly as much as top fuel
Tire with no rim? Like if u get it
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Jet dragsters dont really fascinate me as much. Its cool but ehhh, what's interesting is that top fuel dragsters produce that much stress on the engine, that the team practically needs to rebuild it after every run... I mean hey they do have thousands of ponies with 1 gear that has extreme torque. Makes sense to me
It would be interesting to see the results of a high power turbojet like the J79 (LM1500) coupled to a hydraulic transmission.
This was a good and accurate description of what's happening here.
I'm gonna put a jet-engine into my wheelchair
i would like to see dragsters reach a certain top speed (for example 1000kmh) rather than just the old 1/4 mile thing tbh
Are you sure about 30-40% efficient?
Has anyone made an electric dragster yet?
Are there any competitive electric drag cars yet? Electric will eventually destroy piston engined drag cars because the torque is available from low rpm
Not possible ATM. Batteries cannot produce enough instant power to get close to competing with top fuel cars.
just curious top fuel or jet dragsters are better? in terms of engineering then in terms of the environment? not to cause a climate question just curious about the advancement of motor sports
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Look, there is a Difference between A Turboshaft and a Turbojet, Turbojets are used in Fighter Jets and they use the Incredibly Fast and High Speed Exhaust Gases to Propel the Aircraft, Turboshafts on the other hand use the The Rotation of the Core (so the Turbine and Compressor) to turn the Gearbox that Turns the Wheels. Turboshaft Engines Provide Very Little Thrust as the Way they are intended to be used is by connecting it to a Gearbox (Or whatever you need it to power). They Do Operate Very similarly, Because they are both Jet Turbine Engines, both Work on the Same Principle.
I think they can get more thrust if they use higher bypass engines.
They need afterburner
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2:30 He crashed, but he still won
So not the right choice as a daily I guess.
plz do one on rocket dragsters
Please make video about tractor pull race. Where they have multiple engines
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Why..... ?!? .....because. ...that's why.
Someone should put a nozzle on the jet similar to a jet ski, so the driver can divert the thrust up and hold it at full throttle while staging, then to launch just swivel the nozzle. Kind of like a harrier in reverse.
Wow the new season of rocket league looking great
You are mentioning that the turbines come from helicopters and then explain how plane turbines work. This one 0:46 actually is from a helicopter and it doesn't use the thrust of the exhaust to push itself forward, but the exhaust is directed on a second set of turbine wheels wich turn a shaft that connects with the wheels - or before with the helicopter's rotors.
Don't let Richard Hamond near the jet car.
4:52 why did that happen? the wheel just slipped while the other one just kept on going
seance a jet car is classed an exhibition only the NHRA will only allow them to run 320.99 mph. if they wanted to run faster all they need to do is open the fuel regulator and pay the fine for going faster then allowed
hp and torque are the wrong measurements when it has thrust
the reason why i cant really get behind jet dragsters is that theres very minimal skill in driving and setup. no need to account for track condition nor the driver doesnt have much to do other than steer
These video's are amazing for learning really enjoy them, what's the dance track in the background around 6min.30?
Next video: rocket propelled dragsters. 👌
5 seconds is slow for foreforce 5 😂😂😂 defo beem in to the 3seconds mark
@Neil Marks you maybe be right and i did some research and you are correct if feels fast as it goes past 🤣🤣
Not true. No jet car has ever run below 5 seconds over the quarter mile in the UK. You may be thinking of Sammy Miller’s rocket car from the 80’s
Jet cars cant top 11000hp nitro top fuel monsters shaking the earth as they rip to 126mph in 60ft.. love them v8 monsters
Always LOVE seeing the rocket trucks burning down the billboard to top off night under fire at Summit Raceway. First place I ever saw NHRA and Rocket dragsters. Absolutely incredible sight and sound
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Also: The TFD should adopt "fly" by wire to control torque
Next: Electric Dragsters
Matin Hill, the creator of Fireforce at Santa Pod, created his first Jet powered car was because he got fed up of making high HP V8s as they're so complicated: Piston timings, etc.
A lot of persuasive argument for jet cars
No engine rebuilds necessary
Bring back jet dragsters
Helicopters don't use jet engines. Jet engines produce thrust, not horsepower.