JET Dragsters: The Insane 320MPH Dragsters
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This is a Jet-Powered Dragster, boasting more than 20 thousand horsepower per tonne and is one of the fastest accelerating cars on the planet.
It’s not the only dragster to use jet power though, there have been things like rocket-semi trucks, school buses and record-breaking funny cars.
But how do they work? And can they compete with the current crop of lightning-fast dragsters? All that, coming up.
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Jet dragsters have been around since the 1960s when racers began purchasing military-surplus jet engines and fitting them to custom dragster chassis’. Initially, they ran them at Bonneville Salt Flats before running them in full NHRA competitions and demolishing the piston-engined cars.
However, the insane speed and fire-risks meant the NHRA banned them. Even now, jet-cars are only run as ‘exhibition cars’ and cannot compete against each other. Whilst this is a shame, we can speculate at how they stack up against current piston-engined cars.
This is the Fireforce 5, a specialised jet-dragster that completes the quarter-mile in just over 5 seconds and can hit well over 300mph. It uses a jet-engine from a helicopter and is one of the quickest jet-cars ever made.
So why would you take a technology that is normally used to propel aircraft and fit it to a race car? Essentially it’s another take on the process of releasing energy from fuel and using it to go really fast.
But for Drag Racing it's a solution that allows them to create immense power without the drawbacks that we have spoken about in previous videos, things like exploding engines, snapping chassis’ in half and ripping tyres clean off the rim.
Not to mention that they produce incredible thrust for their weight, explaining why they are so popular for propelling aircraft.
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Piston dragsters for the win. So brutal. But jets are nice too. So is your content, u are a great teacher.
@scott c I think the concord's louvres were to slow supersonic airflow to subsonic before reaching the compressor; the SR-71 had something like this as well for it's ramjets.
@scott c Oops! Apologies! I direct my question to the other Scott!
Well now I know where rocket league got it’s inspiration.
This..... This is the most American thing america ever invented
Couldn’t engineers design a strong enough brake system that holds the dragster in place until the lights go out, even at full power? Would it be too heavy? Because then the jet engine would have enough time to get to full power
I wanna built the first JATO-assisted drag bicycle.
So you mean rocket league cars
if they doubled or tripled the length of the dragstrip would the jet powered car begin to outperform the other cars? or would that not be feasible, i don’t know too much about drag racing.
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So why not doint the obvious? Hybrid Dragster with piston engine plus turbine, that starts after 100 meters?
I remember watching them when they were allowed to compete at raceway park in nj
People did this bc their crazy or bored
Some things are wrong here : you don't use an helicopter engine to get thrust from it. Turboshafts are only meant to give torque on an axle. Turbojets produce real thrust, but are used only in aircraft.
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"So why would you take a technology that is normally used to propell aircraft and fit it to a race car? Because you can, thats why haha
Fuel economy is measured in oil fields per mile
Problem solved: make a turbine/diesel hybrid 👌 You get the low end diesel torque with the high end turbine power! It’s a crazy idea but I’m sure the Germans could do it! 😊 considering they basically invented everything that we now take for granted ❤️❤️
Me: *draws a car that a topbspeed of 380 mph*
Bob Lazar sent me.
I have been fortunate enough to be a trackside photographer at a couple of jet car events. To be standing 20 feet or less from dueling afterburner pops feels like getting kicked in the chest by an entire herd of horses. When the tree goes green and they take off, it's like the fires of hell itself opened up and a thousand screaming banshees are coming for you (and that's with ear protection). The cars are half way down the track before you actually feel the thrust, which is like being sand blasted with a blowtorch as it blows the dust and debris back at you. A lot of people make fun of them because "top fuel is faster." True, but these beasts are exciting in their own right.
"Why would you take tech. designed to propel an aircraft and fit it to a race car?" Because you can, and it kicks ass!
With all respect, YAWN!! Who cares about 320 mph? Piston powered dragsters dominate the jets in a quarter mile.
Is the NHRA paying you yet? Seriously, these videos are way better and more educational than the stuff the NHRA puts out for their broadcasts. I was already a drag racing fan, but these videos have made me even more excited for the Gatornationals 😁
2:00 if you play KSP you already know that.
5 seconds? Sorry. Too slow. When they hit 335mph in 3.5seconds... the experience of the noise alone is worth the top fuel. Jets are still fun to watch but not nearly as much as top fuel
Tire with no rim? Like if u get it
Jet dragsters dont really fascinate me as much. Its cool but ehhh, what's interesting is that top fuel dragsters produce that much stress on the engine, that the team practically needs to rebuild it after every run... I mean hey they do have thousands of ponies with 1 gear that has extreme torque. Makes sense to me
It would be interesting to see the results of a high power turbojet like the J79 (LM1500) coupled to a hydraulic transmission.
This was a good and accurate description of what's happening here.
I'm gonna put a jet-engine into my wheelchair
i would like to see dragsters reach a certain top speed (for example 1000kmh) rather than just the old 1/4 mile thing tbh
Are you sure about 30-40% efficient?
Has anyone made an electric dragster yet?
Are there any competitive electric drag cars yet? Electric will eventually destroy piston engined drag cars because the torque is available from low rpm
just curious top fuel or jet dragsters are better? in terms of engineering then in terms of the environment? not to cause a climate question just curious about the advancement of motor sports
3:48 Do you want to have the worst sunburn you've ever felt? Because that's how you get the worst sunburn you've ever felt. Also if your AWS certified, that's _probably_ a pretty good way to lose that certification by not following the minimum safety regulations
Look, there is a Difference between A Turboshaft and a Turbojet, Turbojets are used in Fighter Jets and they use the Incredibly Fast and High Speed Exhaust Gases to Propel the Aircraft, Turboshafts on the other hand use the The Rotation of the Core (so the Turbine and Compressor) to turn the Gearbox that Turns the Wheels. Turboshaft Engines Provide Very Little Thrust as the Way they are intended to be used is by connecting it to a Gearbox (Or whatever you need it to power). They Do Operate Very similarly, Because they are both Jet Turbine Engines, both Work on the Same Principle.
I think they can get more thrust if they use higher bypass engines.
They need afterburner
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2:30 He crashed, but he still won
So not the right choice as a daily I guess.
plz do one on rocket dragsters
Please make video about tractor pull race. Where they have multiple engines
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Only men can handle these beasts. Lookin at you Cletus McBitchface
Why..... ?!? .....because. ...that's why.
Someone should put a nozzle on the jet similar to a jet ski, so the driver can divert the thrust up and hold it at full throttle while staging, then to launch just swivel the nozzle. Kind of like a harrier in reverse.
Wow the new season of rocket league looking great
You are mentioning that the turbines come from helicopters and then explain how plane turbines work. This one 0:46 actually is from a helicopter and it doesn't use the thrust of the exhaust to push itself forward, but the exhaust is directed on a second set of turbine wheels wich turn a shaft that connects with the wheels - or before with the helicopter's rotors.
Don't let Richard Hamond near the jet car.
4:52 why did that happen? the wheel just slipped while the other one just kept on going
seance a jet car is classed an exhibition only the NHRA will only allow them to run 320.99 mph. if they wanted to run faster all they need to do is open the fuel regulator and pay the fine for going faster then allowed
hp and torque are the wrong measurements when it has thrust
the reason why i cant really get behind jet dragsters is that theres very minimal skill in driving and setup. no need to account for track condition nor the driver doesnt have much to do other than steer
These video's are amazing for learning really enjoy them, what's the dance track in the background around 6min.30?
Next video: rocket propelled dragsters. 👌
5 seconds is slow for foreforce 5 😂😂😂 defo beem in to the 3seconds mark
@Neil Marks you maybe be right and i did some research and you are correct if feels fast as it goes past 🤣🤣
Not true. No jet car has ever run below 5 seconds over the quarter mile in the UK. You may be thinking of Sammy Miller’s rocket car from the 80’s
Jet cars cant top 11000hp nitro top fuel monsters shaking the earth as they rip to 126mph in 60ft.. love them v8 monsters
Always LOVE seeing the rocket trucks burning down the billboard to top off night under fire at Summit Raceway. First place I ever saw NHRA and Rocket dragsters. Absolutely incredible sight and sound
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Also: The TFD should adopt "fly" by wire to control torque
Next: Electric Dragsters
Matin Hill, the creator of Fireforce at Santa Pod, created his first Jet powered car was because he got fed up of making high HP V8s as they're so complicated: Piston timings, etc.
A lot of persuasive argument for jet cars
No engine rebuilds necessary
Bring back jet dragsters
Helicopters don't use jet engines. Jet engines produce thrust, not horsepower.
electric motors off the line, the jet to eff you up
*stuffs J79 into a car*
Wouldn't it be better to use the engine as a turboshaft to drive the wheels? If you want the best thrust to weight with absolutely no regard about efficiency use a solid rocket
they could max out the jet engine and hold the cars using wires at start. then suddenly release them on launch.
Not a gtr :D
Use electric motors for the first half of the run, and jet engines for the second half, and you are a winner.
Why put an aircraft jet engine onto a a chassis with four wheels? --- why give road-going cars a potential top speed of 400kph, even though it will never come close to that speed, outside of a racetrack? my guess is for the novelty of doing it
They use wide hose clamps on top fuel dragster's for motor mounts
... What if you piped it through a torque converter? I should probably clarify that I'm talking about turboshafts, not turbojets/turbofans/(sc)ramjets. Turboshafts are designed to primarily produce rotational torque instead of thrust. Soooo what would happen if we used a torque converter to transfer that torque to the wheels?
Nice video! 1:12 Thats not a heli engine, it could have been pulled from some prototype heli, but i's commercial use was for small jets (civil and military). Heli engines are designed to extract power through turbine shaft, so it would be not efficient to use just exhaust thrust. At 0:47 thou the dragster is probably using a gas turbine (jet) to power the wheels, that would be good use of heli engine. Also a bit disappointed no mention was given to fundamental difference between Jets and ICE, similar to the one between electric motor vs ICE. Jets and electric engines (before other technical limits) produce constant Torque or Thrust, while ICE drivetrain produces constant Power. It's often no good at all to even try rating jets power, as that depends on airspeed. For example we can have a jet use maximum thrust at takeoff but still produce less power than it will then use to cruise. But tbh i've not seen one automotive channel explain correctly what power actually is. Probably because of trying desperately not to alienate the audience... It really seems like people will get to understand how cars work only after "car" as a concept dies.
when did jet cars ever beat the best piston dragsters NHRA shortened the 1/4 mile strip to 1000 feet as the piston drag cars were getting too fast but even at 1/4 mile the top piston dragsters have been going under 4 seconds for years another sensationalistic video on youtube that has wrong info
Jet fuel is a hell of a lot cheaper than nitro. Just saying.
Why are the rear tires still so large and thick? To hold the car before the start?
jet dragsters accelerate faster and faster as you speed up. top fuel dragsters accelerate immediately but then taper very quickly. For 1/4 mile, Top Fuel dragster For 1 mile, jet dragster.
remember when Hammond drove one
It’s f wild to think some dude woke up one day and thought “let’s try a jet engine”!
4:10 DHL sponsoring a dragster: we deliver extremely fast ... but 2 times out of 10 you package will be toast
Wait, isnt the burning jet fuel carcinogenic?
What is exactly the purpose of these ridiculous machines. Beat records or to made the much polluting machine able to kill their pilots ? Difficult to understand for a European citizen.
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A jet drag car will never match the thrill of a nitro monster.
Couple of small nitpicks: the compression due to speed for a jet engine doesn't really matter until you're supersonic. The compressor does essentially all the work no matter what speed the dragster is going. Also, jet engines can be very efficient, but the kind used in fighters and drag cars isn't because efficiency comes at the expense of maximum thrust. Also, unless the jet engine is driving the wheels, "power" means nothing for a jet engine. (Also, it would be more technically correct to say that the car is "turbine powered" if the wheels are driven.) The effective power of the jet engine is the thrust produced times the speed of the car. When you look at the fact the car does better on the back half of the course from this perspective, it's small wonder. Your power effectively increases linearly with speed.
Vanishing point! Rocket car kills the jet car in a 1/4 mile research it 👍👍👍
When mpg means metres per gallon
I did the calculations and only got 433 kg of downforce with an angle of 10 degrees. Dunno what I did wrong. Sin is O/H, H is 2494 kg of thrust, then 2494*sin(10) is 433 kg.
Demolishes piston driven cars with a 5 sec 1/4 mile *Top fuel laughs in sub 4s* >U can't just make things up, that's not how this works
i saw a jet dragster incinerate a pt cruiser
Any more plans for the sim channel? I went back to find the old mx5 lap challenge and couldnt see it anywhere
I think electric dragsters are going to be so much better. Too much smoke, noise and pounding in my chest for me.
Ok, but why aren't there rocket dragsters? Just take out the driver so they don't get killed by the g load and strap on some SRB's. They'd be able to pull at least 30 g's.
I was behind one of those jet cars at one point. The word “Hot” doesn’t even start to describe how hot one of those things are. IT MELTED MY PHONE CASE
A solid rocket dragster would be really crazy. 2 second quarter miles would be possible at 500+ mph. Keeping the track unmelted and slowing down, I'll let someone else handle that
Jet dragsters cannot come close to beating a piston engine Top Fuel Dragster, which are wheel driven. Top Fuel cars are hitting 338 mph in just 3.6 seconds in 1,000 feet, performance the jet cars cannot match even in a full quarter mile.